How do I get the cheat system for the game? The special stage is ridiculously hard! Anyone else having the same problem? Love the game otherwise! The attention to detail, dedication, and creativity are amazing! Thank you for putting this game together! I've been playing it almost every day!
Thank you for playing! Don't give up with the spcial stages, they are not as hard as they seem:
* Most of the ring patterns are immediately close to the previous line or on the opposite side. You'll be able to identify them and react accordingly. It's meant to be fast, it's meant to have you miss a lot of rings. The amount of ring is very high, every section has more than 3x the requested amount.
* Don't rely on standing on the ground to quickly move on the other side of the screen, jump instead.
* If you need to grab the spiral of rings, tap your controller instead of keeping the button pressed.
* If you light tap, Sonic stays in place for a few moments in its wall run
Do not worry too much about them in your first game, you'll be able to repeatedly play Green Grove Zone and try the special stages as many times as you need, just like S3K or Mania.
Thank you for the reply and tips! It is so greatly appreciated you taking the time to help me! I did get one emerald on my own, starting to get the hang of it!
hi, i watch a gameplay about this game and i want to play it, but my internet connection fails on every try, it's possible to add another way to download this game?
i didn't know it was there too, on the next actualization i will try from there (after many tries, it actually finished the download, but takes so much time)
For any Linux users out there I have made some Lutris installers for the last couple of versions of S3D2d. Lutris is a Linux game client that aims to make Windows and other games easy to install. The installers can be found at https://lutris.net/games/sonic-3d-in-2d/. The installers haven't been blessed by the Lutris devs yet, but seem to work well on my laptop with Intel graphics. Hope it is okay that I post this here. Thanks for the hard work Sotaknuck!
I really appreciate your effort, as it allows people on a different platform to enjoy my game! I'll put the link into the install instructions as well!
Could you add an option to chose a bigger resolution than 2x or at least with full screen keep the aspect ratio the same and not just forcing it to 16:9
Hello, do you think that you could make a video tutorial on how to add custom music? The instructions in the Loop Info file aren't clear enough for me to understand.
1 - Put the music you want in the Custom folder (Example "mymusic.ogg")
2 - Open LoopInfo. Let's say "mymusic.ogg" is the music you want for GreenGrove Act1. Look for the tag of the stage and put the file in the File= line without any quotes like the example below
If you want the music to loop at a specific moment, you write the loop times in milliseconds. If you leave 0 the music will repeat at their end instead.
3 - Save the file and start the game. Go to the Music Options, find green grove act 1 and press A to switch to your custom music.
4 - Press B to listen to your track, then go to Accept to save this setting.
Hello. I'm new to this and not sure how to make the exe file. Everytime I run the game regularly, I can't move in the special stages (I can jump but can't move directions). I'm using a logitech controller. I hope this is address in 1.10 because It's impossible for me to get bonuses.
Hello, not sure what causes the problem with logitech controllers. May I suggest you to set up the keyboard for the moment? Also, can you try to make a shortcut with the /OLDPAUSE command and see if your controller works in special stages with it?
With 1.09 the MIS1 command still fails to do anything and the game still runs like it's underwater. it's running at a abysmal 3 fps according to fraps and yet a game Like ETS2 which doesn't run the best on my machine runs at roughly 49-55 fps you cannot tell me this game is more taxing than that.
I've tried running it on my GPU and well it's the same like the exact same. Update: Actually got through the control setup and it seems to be fine outside that.
I see...if your heavy slowdown is into the controls screen might be related to the joypad plugins somehow. Glad to see outside of that the game is working fine. Good luck and unlock all characters!
Hola, me encanto el trabajo realizado sobre el juego, es simplemente excelente. Si diria que hay algunas cosas a corregir aun:
+En los bonus , los controles son imposibles, funciona mal y no es lo mismo que en sonic 2 , mi consejo seria ver otro tipo de bonus o intercambiarlos. La idea de que cada boss te entregue una esmeralda me encanta. es mas viable
+Hubiese estado bueno tener un modo de juego adicional parecido al de sonic 3D BLAST en el que tengas que buscar los Flickys y meterlos en un anillo escondido en el mapa.
+Otra cosa que me hubiera gustado ver (que tambien lo estan desarrollando para sonic mania) es poder jugar con " 3 JUGADORES SIMULTANEO" sonic, tails y knukcles en un modo de juego ej: Como en "Sonic classic Heroes" ya que la dificultad del juego lo hace interesante ese modo de juego. Me cumplis un sueño si agregas el modo ese.
Sin mas que agregar , espere me escuchen y ojala se puede realizar esos modos en este juego
MUCHAS GRACIAS POR ESTE JUEGAZO !
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Hello, I loved the work done on the game, it is simply excellent. If I said there are some things to correct still: + In bonuses, controls are impossible, it works poorly and is not the same as in sonic 2, my advice would be to see another type of bonus or exchange them. I love the idea of each boss giving you an emerald. it is more viable + It would have been nice to have an additional game mode similar to Sonic 3D BLAST where you have to search for the Flickys and put them in a hidden ring on the map. + Another thing that I would have liked to see (which they are also developing for sonic mania) is being able to play with "3 SIMULTANEOUS PLAYERS" sonic, tails and knukcles in a game mode eg: As in "Sonic classic Heroes" since the difficulty The game makes this game mode interesting. I have a dream come true if you add that mode. Without more to add, wait listen to me and hopefully you can make those modes in this game
Hi there! I was playing the last version, and I noticed something that I think could have been a minor oversight. Why is the yellow emerald the first one to be grabbed (and then released when it is defeated) by Silver Sonic at the first miniboss fight? Also, it is the first emerald from the left when the emeralds are scattered when Eggman drops the capsule on Sonic (or any other character). Both the spectral sequence of colors (red, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, plus gray) and the sequence of Special Stages by the amount of rings needed to finish the laps follow the same order. However, if the character picks the yellow emerald, then the first special stage will be the red one, whose amount of rings to complete the first round is 30. And the following one is going to be the green one. However, the amount of rings needed to finish the first lap jumps by 20 from 30 to 50, whereas in the following Special Stages it always increases by 10 rings. Should not the red emerald be the first in the scattering sequence and also the first one to be grabbed by Silver Sonic?
Hello! The yellow emerald is dropped by Silver Sonic as it is a reference to the emerald he dropped in Sonic 2 SMS. Yet, if you choose to not take the emerald from him, it will be the second emerald you get from special stages.
Hey Sotaknuck will 1.09 fix the slow down problem I've literally tried everything including the /MIS1 fix. But from everything I played. This game is really cool. I stopped at the 2nd level till slow down is fixed.
found a bug in Diamond Dust act 1 boss where when using Golden blast you can stay floating in a corner of the screen while damaging E-99 until its destruction.
This game looks really good and you've done a good job on it. The problem is that when I download it and play it, the background music doesn't play and there isn't a soundtrack file in the folder, either.
I checked the current download file and the zip file correctly contains the Data/Soundtrack folder with all the music tracks. Did you extract the zip file properly?
First up let me say this - you’ve done a bloody FANTASTIC job translating the environments, mechanics and overall experience from 3D to 2D. Absolutely amazing work! The work you’ve put into the game really shows and shines on through as a pure retro sonic experience (It honestly feels like I’m playing what I wanted Sonic 4 to be in my sega megadrive days!)
With that said, I do have a few points of feedback in terms of improvements and/or critique that, in my experience, lets the game down a little.
Boss difficulty curve seems a little erratic. It seems that I had quite a bit of trouble on Green Grove act 2 boss more than I did with the following act 2 bosses, simply because of a few things, notably the horizontal speed of the ball (this was eventually learned, after a game over, but it feels way too difficult for new players and more importantly the first main boss in the game) and robotnik’s i-frames catching the player out of Sonic’s natural “bounce” on bosses - I feel this shouldn’t punish the player in terms of loss of rings/death, but something less punishing like have Sonic bounce away similar to future bosses as the current method takes away something players do naturally.
Foreground/background assets and hazards - sometimes it’s almost impossible to see a set of spikes for example. Diamond Dust act 1 had various places where the spikes would be completely camouflaged in front of the background tiles, making this purely unfair - not difficult.
The Special stages - Yes, this has been brought up a lot (and for good reason). I understand your vision that they’re supposed to be difficult and that the reward is something overpowered that practically “breaks” the game but the bonus stages are teetering more on being unfair than difficult - it’s easy when you know the patterns and have designed them but when you need extremely quick reaction times coupled with the ‘slippy’ controls in them stages, it makes for an infuriating experience. A couple suggestions that may lighten up the experience without removing the “difficulty” could be tightening up the momentum a little or slowing the rings down slightly (but adding more to the quota/having less rings appear).
Quick boss attacks - Things like the Diamond Dust act 1 boss. I notice this has been brought up a fair bit too, and as I understand the pattern and get that the idea is to avoid the lasers as they lock on to your position, the execution requires very fast reactions whilst also trying to figure out when it’s going to shoot - a recipe that is yet again, infuriating. A simple tell when the boss is about to shoot would work wonders (just a sprite flash followed by the shoot or something) and gives the player a fair warning when to dodge that incoming swift laser.
Again, I absolutely appreciate the effort you’ve put in this game, it’s probably one of the best fan games I’ve ever played. The passion and love you’ve obviously put into it is crystal clear and without a shadow of a doubt I’d recommend this to any sonic fan! If it weren’t for a few small bits that I mentioned above this would be a solid 10/10 for me!
I gave the game a second go. Have to say, my impressions are much better. There are some things I still don't agree with but the game is soild. Even got all the emeralds on stream. Made a post talking about 1.08 :3
I'm unable to play this I've tried the "fix" that didn't work even made it run on my GPU and still it runs like it's being played underwater is there a actual fix for this?
I'm sorry, but I cannot replicate the problem on my end. Can you please copy your "save" file inside the game's Data folder and upload it to dropbox or mega so that I can have a look at it?
I've been really enjoying this game so far - the level design has been entertaining and the Act 1 bosses for each area have generally been fun ideas. I particularly enjoyed Gene Gadget. Right now I'm stuck on the Panic Puppet Act 1 boss, which is... troublesome... but perhaps I'll eventually get around to completing it. Flying segments are always really rough...
I have a few suggestions:
- For the switch in Gene Gadget Act 1, it might more clearly convey how it works if it played sound effects to indicate it was on a timer, akin to Sandopolis zone's grind blocks. I couldn't figure it out and had to time out for one death because I wasn't sure if I missed a pathway or something.
- For Panic Puppet zone Act 1, I feel like it might be served by a mild timer extension of some sort: I enjoy the level design, but feel like I'm forced to rush through and ignore it all by the fact that the fight takes so long to do.
You can actually change your music. I have a mix of Saturn and genesis music on my verison. Just download the Saturn music and rename it the same file EXACTLY the same file you wanna replace then just switch the file.
Ex: original- 1. GGZ genesis verison. If you want the saturn verison just take that file and name it the same as above then switch it
Sorry for the inconvenience: it's a bug with that particular screen related to the new pause system, it will be addressed with 1.09. There is a chance the game loses controls focus in that particular screen.
For now you can start a game, reset with F2 in the flicky screen and then continue the saved game.
You can actually change your music. I have a mix of Saturn and genesis music on my verison. Just down load the Saturn music and rename it the same file EXACTLY the same file you wanna replace then just switch the file.
Ex: original- 1. GGZ genesis verison. If you want the saturn verison just take that file and name it the same as above then switch it
Well i made this account so i can give some feedback:
I loved this fangame , all the Sonic lore put into it , like Tails Doll , that Chaos mural , that Extra Final Boss with the Pocket Adventure Mech , etc all of that is awesome =)
now , the feedback , to improve this project :D
-Enemies in middle of a Speed Section , that ruins the speed felling and make you just jump to avoid possible badnicks and not going fast as you supposed to do
-Panic Puppet Zone and Gene Gadget Zone are little annoying to play , they are like a giant maze and in a Sonic game that dosent work , Sonic games are fast , not maze like
-Panic Puppet Zone ACT 1 Boss , the machine with the capsule inside is fun to play , but that Eggman part is so hard that i took 3 days to defeat , a lot of lifes and patience losed on that fight , also , if get hit you can take any ring back , also , Tails moves to slow when fliying , please fix it or at least disable the Eggman part bc i beyond annoying xD
-Panic Puppet Zone ACT 2 Boss , is cool , the 1st part is beyond difficult , you barely have time to think
the 2nd part is good , but the time you have to hit him is too short
the 3rd part is great , no need to change
-The Special Stages , god , they are imposibleeee , i cant get the Emeralds without Cheat Engine , i would rather use the S3&K special stages than the Sonic 2 ones
-E99 Boss , he just spams bombs and laser shoots you like a maniac , you barely have time to react or hit him without getting hit
-Gene Gadget Zone ACT 2 Boss , Please Nerf that Homming attack Little bastard xD , he is to fast for the player to react
Well , that was my experience with this fangame , i have to say , if we improved it with this feedback and the other user feedbacks this fangame can shine very good , it already shines for me xD
also if you reading this and need a digital artist you can talk to me and i can provide some digital art =)
Played the 1.08 version, just finished, maybe a few tips to improve
First, The Insta Shield, it works nicely but it lacks just that "invincibility-frame" that made it so special on S3&K, it allowed you to kill these spikey enemies and dodge damage , here on this game seeing how difficult it is, I please beg you, to add that , it is completely unfair sometimes
General Level Design: Sonic CD had that problem where if you went fast, a enemy was waiting and then you just got hit by it, same here, happens waaaaaay a lot, maybe even a Stage Hazard sometimes.
The Special Stages, the biggest bruh , can't make it, I got the first one legit and then the rest I couldn't, i had to resort to Cheat Engine to get the 7 emeralds, otherwise it wouldn't have been possible
Gene Gadget Act 1 and 2 are a super maze, the fact you can actually move through tubes on Act 1 was something it took me a while to figure out, the first act boss fight, is just extra difficult, worth of being a final boss honestly restarted the stage just to gring Rings and Super Sonic it out, else impossible, maybe add 1 ring after defeating of them? or make it so they spawn over time. The Act 2 boss was alright though
Panic Puppet Act 1: Insane maze, took me 8 minutes to reach the boss and i couldn't kill it due to a time over, had to consume a extra life for it to reset, now the Act 1 boss, Horrible beyond Horrible, i get the idea but, it's just so darn difficult, being hit once just renders you useless as the rings just fall off and tails movement is slow, and to make it worse, there's a second phase, which is even more unfair due to the plus that tails moves slow, and robotnik can just, appear from the bottom side or top side, maybe restrict it to being only left and right, or just add over time a ring that shows up so you have a chance, more than that, i see that boss to being improved, I legit had to reset the stage just to grab rings and Super Sonic it out.
Panic Puppet Act 2: was alright, fun to explore, the first phase of the boss really meme, hits you a lot, maybe add a delay after they stomp? most of the times i just got hit after hitting the boss, which was meh, took me a few tries, the second phase, just add more time to hit the blue orbs pls, third phase was alright
The Final Fight: 3 minute boss , really easy tbh, just time consuming like the original one, dying here and on the post fight is just... eehhhh, since you have to repeat that over again and it's just frustration at that point.
Extra Boss: what if we got more rings ? , I spammed the Boost because I got a vibe from S3&K, though it consumed rings so I found myself in a weird spot and then died, The Character's movement seem slow too, but overall a fun fight and a nice touch to the end of the game.
That's all my rant of the game, hope seeing it improve.
I really really want to enjoy this game, but the music wont play at all, and theres no options menu to do anything about it. It's not unplayable, but it completely ruins the experience and pushes me away from playing the game
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How do I get the cheat system for the game? The special stage is ridiculously hard! Anyone else having the same problem? Love the game otherwise! The attention to detail, dedication, and creativity are amazing! Thank you for putting this game together! I've been playing it almost every day!
Thank you for playing!
Don't give up with the spcial stages, they are not as hard as they seem:
* Most of the ring patterns are immediately close to the previous line or on the opposite side. You'll be able to identify them and react accordingly. It's meant to be fast, it's meant to have you miss a lot of rings. The amount of ring is very high, every section has more than 3x the requested amount.
* Don't rely on standing on the ground to quickly move on the other side of the screen, jump instead.
* If you need to grab the spiral of rings, tap your controller instead of keeping the button pressed.
* If you light tap, Sonic stays in place for a few moments in its wall run
Do not worry too much about them in your first game, you'll be able to repeatedly play Green Grove Zone and try the special stages as many times as you need, just like S3K or Mania.
Thank you for the reply and tips! It is so greatly appreciated you taking the time to help me! I did get one emerald on my own, starting to get the hang of it!
I was finally able to get all the chaos emeralds and beat the game. Amy brings a whole new challenge to the game! Wow!
Yes, Amy is a great character if you're looking for an harder challenge.
Keep playing! There's four more characters to unlock!
New Version of my Sonic 3D in 2D Music Mod is out now! , must have version 1.09 or above for working!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--kL5hlRqfI&feature=youtu.be
hi, i watch a gameplay about this game and i want to play it, but my internet connection fails on every try, it's possible to add another way to download this game?
This game is also available on Gamejolt, did you try from that website as well?
i didn't know it was there too, on the next actualization i will try from there (after many tries, it actually finished the download, but takes so much time)
For any Linux users out there I have made some Lutris installers for the last couple of versions of S3D2d. Lutris is a Linux game client that aims to make Windows and other games easy to install. The installers can be found at https://lutris.net/games/sonic-3d-in-2d/. The installers haven't been blessed by the Lutris devs yet, but seem to work well on my laptop with Intel graphics. Hope it is okay that I post this here. Thanks for the hard work Sotaknuck!
It certainly is!
I really appreciate your effort, as it allows people on a different platform to enjoy my game! I'll put the link into the install instructions as well!
esto solo es una sugerencia cuando estara android
Could you add an option to chose a bigger resolution than 2x or at least with full screen keep the aspect ratio the same and not just forcing it to 16:9
How do I even make the windows shortcut have MIS?
Nvm found out
I went to turn Super and I got froze and this is the end result
Ouch! Thank you for reporting! It will be fixed for 1.10!
Hello, do you think that you could make a video tutorial on how to add custom music? The instructions in the Loop Info file aren't clear enough for me to understand.
1 - Put the music you want in the Custom folder (Example "mymusic.ogg")
2 - Open LoopInfo. Let's say "mymusic.ogg" is the music you want for GreenGrove Act1. Look for the tag of the stage and put the file in the File= line without any quotes like the example below
If you want the music to loop at a specific moment, you write the loop times in milliseconds. If you leave 0 the music will repeat at their end instead.
3 - Save the file and start the game. Go to the Music Options, find green grove act 1 and press A to switch to your custom music.
4 - Press B to listen to your track, then go to Accept to save this setting.
That's it.
thanks!
Hello. I'm new to this and not sure how to make the exe file. Everytime I run the game regularly, I can't move in the special stages (I can jump but can't move directions). I'm using a logitech controller. I hope this is address in 1.10 because It's impossible for me to get bonuses.
Hello, not sure what causes the problem with logitech controllers. May I suggest you to set up the keyboard for the moment? Also, can you try to make a shortcut with the /OLDPAUSE command and see if your controller works in special stages with it?
not sure how to do that. I have windows 10 laptop
Right click the game and create a shortcut.
Right click the shortcut and select properties.
In the properties window into the destination tab after the quotes add /OLDPAUSE.
Hit OK and play the game through that link.
Warning: in OLDPAUSE mode you get out of pause by pressing ENTER on your keyboard, no matter what your controller configuration is.
Is Super Amy not a thing in this game?
Amy corresponds to the hard mode in the game, as such she has no super mode to take advantage of.
Something changed after version 1.10... get all of the Achievements and...
Oho
With 1.09 the MIS1 command still fails to do anything and the game still runs like it's underwater. it's running at a abysmal 3 fps according to fraps and yet a game Like ETS2 which doesn't run the best on my machine runs at roughly 49-55 fps you cannot tell me this game is more taxing than that.
It may not be a GPU problem but CPU related...unfortunately fusion + sonic worlds delta isn't too light...
I've tried running it on my GPU and well it's the same like the exact same. Update: Actually got through the control setup and it seems to be fine outside that.
I see...if your heavy slowdown is into the controls screen might be related to the joypad plugins somehow. Glad to see outside of that the game is working fine. Good luck and unlock all characters!
¿Que contiene la nueva DLC ? ¿cambia la musica del juego?
yes, it's the alternate Saturn Soundtrack.
Hola, me encanto el trabajo realizado sobre el juego, es simplemente excelente. Si diria que hay algunas cosas a corregir aun:
+En los bonus , los controles son imposibles, funciona mal y no es lo mismo que en sonic 2 , mi consejo seria ver otro tipo de bonus o intercambiarlos. La idea de que cada boss te entregue una esmeralda me encanta. es mas viable
+Hubiese estado bueno tener un modo de juego adicional parecido al de sonic 3D BLAST en el que tengas que buscar los Flickys y meterlos en un anillo escondido en el mapa.
+Otra cosa que me hubiera gustado ver (que tambien lo estan desarrollando para sonic mania) es poder jugar con " 3 JUGADORES SIMULTANEO" sonic, tails y knukcles en un modo de juego ej: Como en "Sonic classic Heroes" ya que la dificultad del juego lo hace interesante ese modo de juego. Me cumplis un sueño si agregas el modo ese.
Sin mas que agregar , espere me escuchen y ojala se puede realizar esos modos en este juego
MUCHAS GRACIAS POR ESTE JUEGAZO !
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Hello, I loved the work done on the game, it is simply excellent. If I said there are some things to correct still:
+ In bonuses, controls are impossible, it works poorly and is not the same as in sonic 2, my advice would be to see another type of bonus or exchange them. I love the idea of each boss giving you an emerald. it is more viable
+ It would have been nice to have an additional game mode similar to Sonic 3D BLAST where you have to search for the Flickys and put them in a hidden ring on the map.
+ Another thing that I would have liked to see (which they are also developing for sonic mania) is being able to play with "3 SIMULTANEOUS PLAYERS" sonic, tails and knukcles in a game mode eg: As in "Sonic classic Heroes" since the difficulty The game makes this game mode interesting. I have a dream come true if you add that mode.
Without more to add, wait listen to me and hopefully you can make those modes in this game
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GAME!
los jefes que te dan esmeraldas son solo silver sonic SMS (Green Grove) y fang the sniper
Hi there! I was playing the last version, and I noticed something that I think could have been a minor oversight. Why is the yellow emerald the first one to be grabbed (and then released when it is defeated) by Silver Sonic at the first miniboss fight? Also, it is the first emerald from the left when the emeralds are scattered when Eggman drops the capsule on Sonic (or any other character). Both the spectral sequence of colors (red, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, plus gray) and the sequence of Special Stages by the amount of rings needed to finish the laps follow the same order. However, if the character picks the yellow emerald, then the first special stage will be the red one, whose amount of rings to complete the first round is 30. And the following one is going to be the green one. However, the amount of rings needed to finish the first lap jumps by 20 from 30 to 50, whereas in the following Special Stages it always increases by 10 rings. Should not the red emerald be the first in the scattering sequence and also the first one to be grabbed by Silver Sonic?
I forgot to ask about that earlier, my bad!
Hello! The yellow emerald is dropped by Silver Sonic as it is a reference to the emerald he dropped in Sonic 2 SMS. Yet, if you choose to not take the emerald from him, it will be the second emerald you get from special stages.
nothing bad with Panic Puppet act 1 bosses,just the fact that you can't recover any rings when hit,not sonic nor tails and feels like bruh.
running on a 120Hz monitor results in realy slow gameplay, need to decouple screen updates from refresh rate.
Did you use the machine independant speed option (/MIS1)?
No I did not but the recent 1.09 version appears to have corrected the problem. Thanks.
Hey Sotaknuck will 1.09 fix the slow down problem I've literally tried everything including the /MIS1 fix. But from everything I played. This game is really cool. I stopped at the 2nd level till slow down is fixed.
One of the joypad extensions wasn't compatible with windows 10 and caused the slowdowns. Did you get a new version and remapped you joypad?
is this game safe
of course it is
how do you get past the intro (flickies are mysterious...)
There is a controller bug in v1.08 that may block your controls in that screen. Press F2 to restart the game and continue the saved game.
1.09 is coming really soon with a fix for that issue, sorry for the inconvenience!
found a bug in Diamond Dust act 1 boss where when using Golden blast you can stay floating in a corner of the screen while damaging E-99 until its destruction.
not a complaint but its a bug what can i say
I'll look into it, thank you for reporting!
This game looks really good and you've done a good job on it. The problem is that when I download it and play it, the background music doesn't play and there isn't a soundtrack file in the folder, either.
I checked the current download file and the zip file correctly contains the Data/Soundtrack folder with all the music tracks. Did you extract the zip file properly?
First up let me say this - you’ve done a bloody FANTASTIC job translating the environments, mechanics and overall experience from 3D to 2D. Absolutely amazing work! The work you’ve put into the game really shows and shines on through as a pure retro sonic experience (It honestly feels like I’m playing what I wanted Sonic 4 to be in my sega megadrive days!)
With that said, I do have a few points of feedback in terms of improvements and/or critique that, in my experience, lets the game down a little.
Boss difficulty curve seems a little erratic. It seems that I had quite a bit of trouble on Green Grove act 2 boss more than I did with the following act 2 bosses, simply because of a few things, notably the horizontal speed of the ball (this was eventually learned, after a game over, but it feels way too difficult for new players and more importantly the first main boss in the game) and robotnik’s i-frames catching the player out of Sonic’s natural “bounce” on bosses - I feel this shouldn’t punish the player in terms of loss of rings/death, but something less punishing like have Sonic bounce away similar to future bosses as the current method takes away something players do naturally.
Foreground/background assets and hazards - sometimes it’s almost impossible to see a set of spikes for example. Diamond Dust act 1 had various places where the spikes would be completely camouflaged in front of the background tiles, making this purely unfair - not difficult.
The Special stages - Yes, this has been brought up a lot (and for good reason). I understand your vision that they’re supposed to be difficult and that the reward is something overpowered that practically “breaks” the game but the bonus stages are teetering more on being unfair than difficult - it’s easy when you know the patterns and have designed them but when you need extremely quick reaction times coupled with the ‘slippy’ controls in them stages, it makes for an infuriating experience. A couple suggestions that may lighten up the experience without removing the “difficulty” could be tightening up the momentum a little or slowing the rings down slightly (but adding more to the quota/having less rings appear).
Quick boss attacks - Things like the Diamond Dust act 1 boss. I notice this has been brought up a fair bit too, and as I understand the pattern and get that the idea is to avoid the lasers as they lock on to your position, the execution requires very fast reactions whilst also trying to figure out when it’s going to shoot - a recipe that is yet again, infuriating. A simple tell when the boss is about to shoot would work wonders (just a sprite flash followed by the shoot or something) and gives the player a fair warning when to dodge that incoming swift laser.
Again, I absolutely appreciate the effort you’ve put in this game, it’s probably one of the best fan games I’ve ever played. The passion and love you’ve obviously put into it is crystal clear and without a shadow of a doubt I’d recommend this to any sonic fan! If it weren’t for a few small bits that I mentioned above this would be a solid 10/10 for me!
Awesome work.
I feel like the rings and bombs in the special stages go by way to fast for me to react to it.
I think you've missed a trick here not calling this "Sonic 2D Blast"
I've wanted someone to do this concept for a while, and I'm very happy to stumble upon this. Gonna give it a try now.
There's already a ROM hack called Sonic 2D Blast.
I made a mod for this fangame , if you want to download it enter here xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdPp0w6p778
I gave the game a second go. Have to say, my impressions are much better. There are some things I still don't agree with but the game is soild. Even got all the emeralds on stream. Made a post talking about 1.08 :3
Great to see you gave the game a second chance. Will you unlock all of the extra characters?
Maybe ^^
I'm unable to play this I've tried the "fix" that didn't work even made it run on my GPU and still it runs like it's being played underwater is there a actual fix for this?
Thanks.
For some reason I can't get the last 2 emeralds as Wechnia, the special rings don't work at all. Is this normal?
No it's not. What is the problem exactly? The big rings are missing or they don't warp when you touch them?
Does this problem persist if you reload the game?
They don't warp, and yes, the problem does persist even if i reload the game no matter what.
I'm sorry, but I cannot replicate the problem on my end. Can you please copy your "save" file inside the game's Data folder and upload it to dropbox or mega so that I can have a look at it?
Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqjub7dk7bg0rkr/Save?dl=0
Thanks, I'll look into it and let you know.
I've been really enjoying this game so far - the level design has been entertaining and the Act 1 bosses for each area have generally been fun ideas. I particularly enjoyed Gene Gadget. Right now I'm stuck on the Panic Puppet Act 1 boss, which is... troublesome... but perhaps I'll eventually get around to completing it. Flying segments are always really rough...
I have a few suggestions:
- For the switch in Gene Gadget Act 1, it might more clearly convey how it works if it played sound effects to indicate it was on a timer, akin to Sandopolis zone's grind blocks. I couldn't figure it out and had to time out for one death because I wasn't sure if I missed a pathway or something.
- For Panic Puppet zone Act 1, I feel like it might be served by a mild timer extension of some sort: I enjoy the level design, but feel like I'm forced to rush through and ignore it all by the fact that the fight takes so long to do.
Anyway, so far, really enjoying it!
Hi,
When you're talking about a "Window link", do you mean a Symblink ?
'cause I don't see where can I put the command in a Symblink when I Right click on it to go to Properties. Everything is grey, can't modify.
Thanks
he means make a shortcut
KaiserinRei is correct. I'll update the troubleshooting text with "shortcut" instead of "link". Sorry for the confusion!
this is normal? the water is weird but the game is awesome
Wow, no, it's not normal! Not sure what causes that magnifying effect for you. Try to run the game with /LIGHTWATER (see troubleshooting above)
Thanks that fix my error and i have a idea can you add saturn ost?
You can actually change your music. I have a mix of Saturn and genesis music on my verison. Just download the Saturn music and rename it the same file EXACTLY the same file you wanna replace then just switch the file.
Ex: original- 1. GGZ genesis verison. If you want the saturn verison just take that file and name it the same as above then switch it
This is a bit of a late reply, but V1.09 introduced the Saturn option as additional DLC. That will take care of loops for the music as well.
I seem to get stuck on the screen with the flickies when I click new game?
Sorry for the inconvenience: it's a bug with that particular screen related to the new pause system, it will be addressed with 1.09. There is a chance the game loses controls focus in that particular screen.
For now you can start a game, reset with F2 in the flicky screen and then continue the saved game.
Will the sega saturn music be in 1.09?
You can actually change your music. I have a mix of Saturn and genesis music on my verison. Just down load the Saturn music and rename it the same file EXACTLY the same file you wanna replace then just switch the file.
Ex: original- 1. GGZ genesis verison. If you want the saturn verison just take that file and name it the same as above then switch it
(SPOILER FOR WHO DOSENT PLAYED IT)
Well i made this account so i can give some feedback:
I loved this fangame , all the Sonic lore put into it , like Tails Doll , that Chaos mural , that Extra Final Boss with the Pocket Adventure Mech , etc all of that is awesome =)
now , the feedback , to improve this project :D
-Enemies in middle of a Speed Section , that ruins the speed felling and make you just jump to avoid possible badnicks and not going fast as you supposed to do
-Panic Puppet Zone and Gene Gadget Zone are little annoying to play , they are like a giant maze and in a Sonic game that dosent work , Sonic games are fast , not maze like
-Panic Puppet Zone ACT 1 Boss , the machine with the capsule inside is fun to play , but that Eggman part is so hard that i took 3 days to defeat , a lot of lifes and patience losed on that fight , also , if get hit you can take any ring back , also , Tails moves to slow when fliying , please fix it or at least disable the Eggman part bc i beyond annoying xD
-Panic Puppet Zone ACT 2 Boss , is cool , the 1st part is beyond difficult , you barely have time to think
the 2nd part is good , but the time you have to hit him is too short
the 3rd part is great , no need to change
-The Special Stages , god , they are imposibleeee , i cant get the Emeralds without Cheat Engine , i would rather use the S3&K special stages than the Sonic 2 ones
-E99 Boss , he just spams bombs and laser shoots you like a maniac , you barely have time to react or hit him without getting hit
-Gene Gadget Zone ACT 2 Boss , Please Nerf that Homming attack Little bastard xD , he is to fast for the player to react
Well , that was my experience with this fangame , i have to say , if we improved it with this feedback and the other user feedbacks this fangame can shine very good , it already shines for me xD
also if you reading this and need a digital artist you can talk to me and i can provide some digital art =)
What is the minimal system requirements?
Is the game based on own engine or it`s 16-bit Sega emulation system ?
I tested the game on windows 7 on a core i7 from 2012 and had no issues at all. Anything newer than that should have no problems running the game.
The game uses an customized Sonic Worlds Engine on Fusion 2.5.
Played the 1.08 version, just finished, maybe a few tips to improve
First, The Insta Shield, it works nicely but it lacks just that "invincibility-frame" that made it so special on S3&K, it allowed you to kill these spikey enemies and dodge damage , here on this game seeing how difficult it is, I please beg you, to add that , it is completely unfair sometimes
General Level Design: Sonic CD had that problem where if you went fast, a enemy was waiting and then you just got hit by it, same here, happens waaaaaay a lot, maybe even a Stage Hazard sometimes.
The Special Stages, the biggest bruh , can't make it, I got the first one legit and then the rest I couldn't, i had to resort to Cheat Engine to get the 7 emeralds, otherwise it wouldn't have been possible
Gene Gadget Act 1 and 2 are a super maze, the fact you can actually move through tubes on Act 1 was something it took me a while to figure out, the first act boss fight, is just extra difficult, worth of being a final boss honestly restarted the stage just to gring Rings and Super Sonic it out, else impossible, maybe add 1 ring after defeating of them? or make it so they spawn over time. The Act 2 boss was alright though
Panic Puppet Act 1: Insane maze, took me 8 minutes to reach the boss and i couldn't kill it due to a time over, had to consume a extra life for it to reset, now the Act 1 boss, Horrible beyond Horrible, i get the idea but, it's just so darn difficult, being hit once just renders you useless as the rings just fall off and tails movement is slow, and to make it worse, there's a second phase, which is even more unfair due to the plus that tails moves slow, and robotnik can just, appear from the bottom side or top side, maybe restrict it to being only left and right, or just add over time a ring that shows up so you have a chance, more than that, i see that boss to being improved, I legit had to reset the stage just to grab rings and Super Sonic it out.
Panic Puppet Act 2: was alright, fun to explore, the first phase of the boss really meme, hits you a lot, maybe add a delay after they stomp? most of the times i just got hit after hitting the boss, which was meh, took me a few tries, the second phase, just add more time to hit the blue orbs pls, third phase was alright
The Final Fight: 3 minute boss , really easy tbh, just time consuming like the original one, dying here and on the post fight is just... eehhhh, since you have to repeat that over again and it's just frustration at that point.
Extra Boss: what if we got more rings ? , I spammed the Boost because I got a vibe from S3&K, though it consumed rings so I found myself in a weird spot and then died, The Character's movement seem slow too, but overall a fun fight and a nice touch to the end of the game.
That's all my rant of the game, hope seeing it improve.
I really really want to enjoy this game, but the music wont play at all, and theres no options menu to do anything about it. It's not unplayable, but it completely ruins the experience and pushes me away from playing the game
The music should play automatically. Can you listen to the music if you open the files in the soundtrack folder directly?
Yeah, I can listen to the music in the data folder, but for some reason it just doesnt play ingame
I'm not sure what could cause such an issue.
What about the regular sound effects, can you hear them?
Finally! A version of Sonic 3D Blast I can actually tollerate